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don't go to the nra. >> here's what the nra and people do. >> don't lump me in with alex jones. >> after each massacre, all the gun rights supporters come out and they basically instill fear and say if everyone in the movie theater had been armed and everyone at the school were armed, it wouldn't have happened. here's what happens. gun sales and ammunition sales rocket. >> don't pass the buck, piers. >> does that happen? >> the reason people are buying a lot of guns is people on the left are talking very much about banning guns. a lot of people are saying if i'm not going to have the right to purchase a weapon in two months, i will buy it now. >> why did ronald reagan want them removed? >> i don't know. >> you liked reagan? >> i like him, but i don't agree on everything. he agreed on the progressive tax rate. >> did you agree about assault weapons? >> i will believe what you are saying, sure. i don't know what his position was. >> let me read the letter. this was what he penned along with the presidents. while we recognize the assault weapon legislation will not stop all assault weapon c
don't go to the nra. >> here's what the nra and people do. >> don't lump me in with alex jones. >> after each massacre, all the gun rights supporters come out and they basically instill fear and say if everyone in the movie theater had been armed and everyone at the school were armed, it wouldn't have happened. here's what happens. gun sales and ammunition sales rocket. >> don't pass the buck, piers. >> does that happen? >> the reason people are buying a lot...
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and the nra president david keen blasted mr. biden and the administration when he appeared on the "today" show this morning. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all, on what would make that difference. i don't think there's a welcome of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. >> keene's comments follow the statement of the nra immediately after the meeting yesterday. quote, we were disapointed how much the meeting had to do with keeping the children safe but an agenda to attack the second amendment. >> i think we can do a great deal without in any way imposing on or impinging on the rights of the second amendment. >> that was the vice president before the meeting started. joining me now, nia-malaki h henderson and keith boynekin. are you surprise fwid reaction post meeting and even going in to the meeting from the nra at this point? >> no. the reaction seems to be typical. they don't want to address any sort of
and the nra president david keen blasted mr. biden and the administration when he appeared on the "today" show this morning. >> we have a profound disagreement with this administration, first of all, on what would make that difference. i don't think there's a welcome of concern about dealing with the problem. i think there's a very different view as to what the problem is and how to solve it. >> keene's comments follow the statement of the nra immediately after the meeting...
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, with the nra leadership. but in fact, i think a lot of, you know, our positions on this subject, are much in line with the nra membership. >> i think that's true. and i think a lot of people who are with the nra or affiliated with it feel uneasy with the intransigence coming after massacres like sandy hook. i want to play you a clip from my interview with alex jones. it's been watched by over 5 million people now, gone viral, and some people find it entertaining. i didn't. i found it terrifying. let's listen to what he had to say. >> i'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms. doesn't matter how many lemmings you get on the street begging for them to have their guns taken. we will not relinquish them. do you understand? that's why you're going to fail and the establishment knows no matter how much propaganda, the republic will rise again when you attempt to take our guns. >> i mean, the thing that really concerned me about that, mark, was the scale of the vitriol, the alarm
, with the nra leadership. but in fact, i think a lot of, you know, our positions on this subject, are much in line with the nra membership. >> i think that's true. and i think a lot of people who are with the nra or affiliated with it feel uneasy with the intransigence coming after massacres like sandy hook. i want to play you a clip from my interview with alex jones. it's been watched by over 5 million people now, gone viral, and some people find it entertaining. i didn't. i found it...
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it isn't the nra. but we do say, one of our core missions, you know, the nra has been around since 1871 and from the 1970s on, we have emerged as the defender of second amendment rights. that's a core part of our mission. >> sure. but is that -- in that do you support gun owners or gun manufacturers? >> we support gun owners, our members and the people in the country who believe in the second amendment. we have had our difference s in the past, if you know the history of the nra with the gun manufacturers, because it is not our constituency. our constituency is twofold, the american people who want to own guns and use them legally, and it is the second amendment, itself. >> david keene, president of the nra, thank you for joining us this morning. >> any time. >> coming up, while washington debates gun control, connecticut's governor pays tribute to the fallen. >> in the midst of one of the worst days in our history, we also saw the best of our state. teachers and therapist who sacrificed their lives pr
it isn't the nra. but we do say, one of our core missions, you know, the nra has been around since 1871 and from the 1970s on, we have emerged as the defender of second amendment rights. that's a core part of our mission. >> sure. but is that -- in that do you support gun owners or gun manufacturers? >> we support gun owners, our members and the people in the country who believe in the second amendment. we have had our difference s in the past, if you know the history of the nra...
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you know the nra leadership at times defers from the nra membership. the truth is, there are nra members who are willing to maybe reasonable concessions. >> name one republican member of congress who is for any form of gun control today. >> some of the few from remaining from the northeast. >> and mark kirk and susan collins. you can go through the list flt by the way. this is not a republican and democratic issue. >> john boehner, having been humiliated in this situation is going to have to find a situation in which he would allow a vote in the house. and his own majority is impossible to imagine that happening. >> what do you think is going to happen? >> nothing. >> the obama administration is going to tee it up and bring it to 2014. i think they do believe that the politics of this have shifted enough that they can make some republicans pay a price for not being willing to hold a vote. >> the democrats not mauled at the polls afterwards and a lot of people remember that and you are right, a lot of democrats don't want to touch this issue either. but
you know the nra leadership at times defers from the nra membership. the truth is, there are nra members who are willing to maybe reasonable concessions. >> name one republican member of congress who is for any form of gun control today. >> some of the few from remaining from the northeast. >> and mark kirk and susan collins. you can go through the list flt by the way. this is not a republican and democratic issue. >> john boehner, having been humiliated in this...
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i have a lot of friends who are members of the nra. 75% of nra members believe you should have a background check before buying a gun. that's certainly something that i would hope that the leadership in the gun lobby in some time, maybe not today or tomorrow, but maybe over the next coming weeks, i mean, this is a very political issue. as you know, you know, money and politics kind of drive the discussion on a lot of these issues. so this is going to take some time. but you know, i've got friends also in nra leadership. and some of them are reasonable people, and i think we can come to some commonsense solutions for this very serious problem. >> commander kelly, i appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >>> just ahead tonight, a show of support that no one expected now fills an entire warehouse here in newtown. more than 150,000 condolence letters from across the globe. what strangers wrote to the families they never met and why it's made a difference. we'll be right back in newtown. [ male announcer ] ahh... retirement. sit back, relax, pull out the paper and...what!!?? an article t
i have a lot of friends who are members of the nra. 75% of nra members believe you should have a background check before buying a gun. that's certainly something that i would hope that the leadership in the gun lobby in some time, maybe not today or tomorrow, but maybe over the next coming weeks, i mean, this is a very political issue. as you know, you know, money and politics kind of drive the discussion on a lot of these issues. so this is going to take some time. but you know, i've got...
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i got a lot of nra money and a lot of nra members sloshing around in my district, and i have to explain this to them, but i'm going to find a way. >> vice president biden seems to be very determined. i mean, he has been so intense on this, there would be egg on his face if something didn't happen, i think. and i think he is more than well intended. are you hearing from anyone, any of the people who have been to these meetings as to whether they believe something is going to get done? >> well, sure. we've been in there a couple of times now, and we absolutely believe, first of all, that he is the right person to be doing this. he was instrumental in passing some of the really good gun laws we passed in this country the last time we did it. >> well, he wrote the clinton crime bill. >> during the clinton administration. he is very close to law enforcement. he is from kind of the heart of the country, and he understands -- he understands how people think about this issue. and basically, people want their kids to be safe. they don't want felons getting guns. and in fact, we know how to stop
i got a lot of nra money and a lot of nra members sloshing around in my district, and i have to explain this to them, but i'm going to find a way. >> vice president biden seems to be very determined. i mean, he has been so intense on this, there would be egg on his face if something didn't happen, i think. and i think he is more than well intended. are you hearing from anyone, any of the people who have been to these meetings as to whether they believe something is going to get done?...
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side-by-side of this meeting with the nra leadership, we're having many nra members and gun owners greater capacity coming to us and saying the nra doesn't represent me. they saw that press conference right after the shooting in newtown, and said this is not what we think should be done in this country. we're having so many people come to us and saying we support you. background checks makes sense. that's not going to stop me fre owning a gun. the realities of what people like alex jones scream about on tv couldn't really be further from the truth of what we're actually discussing with the administration and people on capitol hill and the average american citizen who is calling on us to make sure something gets done. >> the average american says -- and i want to open this up to our foulkes in new york -- the average voice the americans is something that's often lost. as someone who has serveed in iraq and owned and held guns, you have experience in the military. there is a culture in america around guns that is actually very, very different from what happens in the military, but it's sort
side-by-side of this meeting with the nra leadership, we're having many nra members and gun owners greater capacity coming to us and saying the nra doesn't represent me. they saw that press conference right after the shooting in newtown, and said this is not what we think should be done in this country. we're having so many people come to us and saying we support you. background checks makes sense. that's not going to stop me fre owning a gun. the realities of what people like alex jones scream...
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does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats that you -- >> we won four out of seven. four out of seven where the nra supported every one of those four and we won with a small amount of money. there is this myth that the nra is so powerful -- >> mr. bloomberg's experimental anti-nra pac spending, it did focus on seven races in 2012. he didn't win all of them. but he did win four of those races. and it didn't take him a ton of money to do it. and as we reported last night, the nra's own spending was profoundly impotent in the last election. less than 1% of their multimillion-dollar expenditure
does the nra have disproportionate power? you argued a moment ago that they didn't have the power they once had in a presidential election. >> look, i'll give you a good example. one of the things they decided to do in this last election was to support some candidates that were running against those that had great records with the nra, where the nra was putting their money into one side. i decided to put my money into the other side. >> joe baca in california one of those democrats...
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of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin money and big grass roots organization. >> and the thing is bringing the voices in. we need the leadership of the president and i expect the president president to play a strong leadership role. progressive organizations will work in the states and make sure that we have the voice and we wily have the american people and even gun owners who is support these proposals their voices at the table as well. >> chris: mr. pratt, i think you you would agree the national wave of horror over the slaughter of the 20 small children in newtown, last mo
of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin...
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so you wonder about of this kind of vaunted nra is i think becoming no longer a vaunted nra. it's becoming somewhat more of a paper tiger than a caged tiger because these statements and this communications strategy is not winning any friends. it's losing lots of friends and that's why i think you even hear a lot of pro-nra members saying the kinds of things that the white house are talking about makts a lot of sense and it all shows up in the polling. the poll something overwhelmingly for doing the things that the vice president is talking about. >> but, dr. peterson, you have heard some of the things coming out from gun advocates and the nra. what is your reaction to this kind of rhetoric? it's sounding increasingly hallucinating. >> there's a lot of what we call trickology going on here. theer those on the right who are mouthpieces for the gun manufacturing lobby, what they have done is they've taken this sort of american notion of the second amendment and that he try to use this as a prop to actually continue to be able to sell more guns and to continue to along the lines
so you wonder about of this kind of vaunted nra is i think becoming no longer a vaunted nra. it's becoming somewhat more of a paper tiger than a caged tiger because these statements and this communications strategy is not winning any friends. it's losing lots of friends and that's why i think you even hear a lot of pro-nra members saying the kinds of things that the white house are talking about makts a lot of sense and it all shows up in the polling. the poll something overwhelmingly for doing...
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the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is somethi
the nra is going to be dwarfed. they are not by any means the largest special interests in politics. and the reality, charles, the one thing you have to acknowledge when we talk about the politics of this, is that the assault on weapons ban wasn't renewed in 2004, and democrats, largely credit, not large -- but credit in part their loss of congress in 1994 to the pass on the assault weapons ban. the truth is, this isn't, as you point out, anderson, a partisan issue. this is gun owners -- the...
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this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public, where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to with what makes sense -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. i think the will of the populous has changed. when the rubber hits the wheel in washington, it's still going to be difficult. you have the practicality of the debt crisis. the sequester hasn't even been handled, let alone immigration, which the president promised to do. i don't kn
this is gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your position on nra is based on money. to your point, they have 4 million members who are very energized and who in local districts would be very upset if see their congressman or senator -- >> but isn't that then a representative of the populous? isn't it then representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i...
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the nra says it has gotten 100,000 new members. people do seem to be more active on this issue, but do you see any minds changing particularly in congress? >> i do. i think people are starting to talk. that's why you see even nra members who say i'm a gun holder and a ban on assault weapons and ban on magazines is something that's common sense that we have to think about. i think it is not reasonable to think it is easier to get a gun, talking about background checks, it's easier to get a gun then get a driver's license. that does not make sense in our modern day society. >> you don't think you'll have to take assault weapons off the table to get reform? >> i think what the administration is doing, we have to make sure we know and we have a complete background check with no loopholes. we've got to take the magazines that people have access to off the table. let's do that. that is something we can accomplish. i want to make sure we do something first that makes sense and make us all safer. taking away those magazines. me coming from
the nra says it has gotten 100,000 new members. people do seem to be more active on this issue, but do you see any minds changing particularly in congress? >> i do. i think people are starting to talk. that's why you see even nra members who say i'm a gun holder and a ban on assault weapons and ban on magazines is something that's common sense that we have to think about. i think it is not reasonable to think it is easier to get a gun, talking about background checks, it's easier to get a...
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you know, the nra leadership defers to nra leadership. there are reasonable americans who are responsible gun owners, like gabrielle giffords and her husband. >> name one republican. >> i just named three. >> name one republican in congress who is for any gun control today. >> some of the few -- remaining from the northeast -- >> and mark kirk, and susan collins, you can go through the list. it is not a republican/democratic issue. >> it is, the big obstacle, john boehner, he is humiliated, and then has to find a situation where he allows a vote in the house when most of his republicans would not support it. his own stated policy is impossible to imagine it happens. >> so what do you think is going to happen? >> what is going to happen is nothing. >> but the obama administration will tee is up, and bring it to executive decision. i do think they believe that the politics shifted enough, they can make some republicans pay a price that they would not even be willing to vote. >> but remember, in 1994, the assault weapons bill passed and the
you know, the nra leadership defers to nra leadership. there are reasonable americans who are responsible gun owners, like gabrielle giffords and her husband. >> name one republican. >> i just named three. >> name one republican in congress who is for any gun control today. >> some of the few -- remaining from the northeast -- >> and mark kirk, and susan collins, you can go through the list. it is not a republican/democratic issue. >> it is, the big obstacle,...
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and nra to go through the motions of considering. the nra is a potent political force, it has money and members. and particularly in house districts, members need to worry about their nra rating and whether they are going to pardon the pun, be in the crosshairs in the next election. the white house needs to worry -- it's not going to get the nra on its side but it needs to figure out a way to neutralize its power. >> part of figuring that out is figuring where they are going to stake their claim. nra president also continued his hard line against an assault weapons ban. let me play for you what connecticut's governor dan malloy said on hard ball. >> the idea we can't do that just isn't true. in 1930s because machine guns fallen in the hands of criminals, we decided nobody should have a machine gun. guess what, people don't kill any more with machine guns. we're not talking about incidents with hand grenades. we can make practical decisions and pass practical laws. >> it does appear the white house is no longer making passing a new as
and nra to go through the motions of considering. the nra is a potent political force, it has money and members. and particularly in house districts, members need to worry about their nra rating and whether they are going to pardon the pun, be in the crosshairs in the next election. the white house needs to worry -- it's not going to get the nra on its side but it needs to figure out a way to neutralize its power. >> part of figuring that out is figuring where they are going to stake...
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your don't win the point putting down that the nra says no. they're defending as a special interest group what they believe. but i think you can explain like i just tried to do, maybe nobody agrees, but there's a pragmatic reason you don't want assault weapons ban so they don't get in the hands of criminals that take down the law enforcement officials. >> congressman, we had a banner on the screen saying that mike bloomberg will be on "the rachel maddow show" and an interesting player in this pouring and is already and really pouring a lot of money in to supporting candidate who is will support gun control measures and protecting them particularly in republican primaries. he's not looking at this just as let's elect more democrats for gun control but the republican party saying why can't we win over votes there, too? you can look back to 1994 when the assault weapons ban was enacted. 46 republicans in the house, one of them, john kasich and a lot changed about the ideological divide between the parties is shaking out and republican primary cha
your don't win the point putting down that the nra says no. they're defending as a special interest group what they believe. but i think you can explain like i just tried to do, maybe nobody agrees, but there's a pragmatic reason you don't want assault weapons ban so they don't get in the hands of criminals that take down the law enforcement officials. >> congressman, we had a banner on the screen saying that mike bloomberg will be on "the rachel maddow show" and an interesting...
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gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the people's desire? which is why i think if you're going to see change in gun legislation, it's got to come from the public and not from washington. and i do think something has changed after newtown. i do think that there is something that hit a chord with the american public where people are evaluating, okay, to what extent am i willing to balance my right to have a gun, my right to hunt with what makes sense in terms of -- >> so you think -- >> i think something has changed after newtown. >> so you think some form of legislation may be possible? >> i think in terms of the will of the populac
gun owners -- the nra has a-listers -- >> but your argument on nra is based on money. doesn't their influence go far beyond just the dollars they may spend? to your point, they have 4 million members who are very vocal and very energized and who go out and vote and who in local districts would be very upset if they see their congressman or their senator -- >> but isn't that then a representation of the populace rather than just this special interest group? isn't it representing the...
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he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given that issue over to them because they have lobbyists they pay money. in the end, the people determine the outcome. and it's wrong, and it's racist and it's bigoted to say that guns are quintessentially american. they may represent a part of america, but my grandparents who came over from poland and live in brooklyn, new york, are just as much americans, people who came over from ireland, people who came over from italy, we're just as much americans. we live on the coast and we have a right to define the america we want to live in and we have the obligation to win politically, to vote for people to put gun control as a high
he's way, way to the right of the nra. >> the political power the nra now wield means that politicians are too coward to say anything. i have people say to me, you're so brave. hot is brave about wanting to stop 20 more children getting murders? >> i don't think it's the nra power. it's people like us, not the two of us, but americans who care about guns aren't doing enough to make our case to the public. >> why not? >> because we think it's their issue. we have given...
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the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think there's two points there. again, there is enormous public support for these measures. the question is whether these populous and progressive organizations and the infrastructure that they have at their disposals can begin to get the legislatures to follow up on public will here. secondly, the nra argument as stephen and michael were eluding to, there have been dozens perhaps hundreds of challenges to gun laws that are on the books across the country. and nearly every single one of them have failed. there is virtually no case law on the federal books
the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think...
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now they're more concerned about the threats from the nra. if they vote for common sense gun violence prevention laws they might face a challenger which might mean they get voted out of office and they no longer have the free health care and free travel. this is truth is stranger than fiction. it's a public health crisis in this country and they're saying that the debt ceiling is more important than 87 dead americans a day including 3,000 americans every month. that's the equivalent of a 9/11 every month. and these cowards in congress can't put public safety in front of self preservation of their own office? >> you know, it's interesting this group today called sandy hook promise, some of the victims' families and survivors and first responders had their press conference this morning and want to be included in the conversation on gun control legislation but even, john, in that community the most recent for us to witness something of this level of mass killings, there's a divide on even what to do next. and they are if you're going to continue
now they're more concerned about the threats from the nra. if they vote for common sense gun violence prevention laws they might face a challenger which might mean they get voted out of office and they no longer have the free health care and free travel. this is truth is stranger than fiction. it's a public health crisis in this country and they're saying that the debt ceiling is more important than 87 dead americans a day including 3,000 americans every month. that's the equivalent of a 9/11...
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it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do nothing. they want to instill a kind of fatalism that means that we can't do anything to solve our problems. whether we're talking about guns we're talking about keeping weapons and ammunition out of the hands of bad people. now, this is a problem that society deals with all the time. we try to distinguish bad people from good people. we try to distinguish bad situations from good situations. i don't think our existing laws go far enough in doing that. i think it's obvious they are not working because they haven't prevented the
it crosses nra lines so to speak. the difference here is this, over and over again whether you're talking about guns or talking about employment, health care, any other problem that's facing the country, what the other side wants to do is very clear. it's nothing. as i pointed out three years ago, their health care plan is don't get sick and if you do get sick, die quickly and we see the same thing true with guns in the wake of a terrible national tragedy, recurring tragedies, the answer is do...
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. >>> and this crime fighter says the nra has held congress hostage for years. plus, a former congressman and nra point person who says this. >> there is nothing more critical to our nation's well-being than our children's safety. >> why he thinks the way to stop school shootings is to put an armed gun outside the room. >> i wouldn't know what to do with an assault rifle, wouldn't know why i would want one. this "piers morgan tonight". >>> vice president joe biden is expected to hand president obama his recommendations to stop gun violence, meanwhile, the parents who lost their children in the massacre at sandy hook elementary school are speaking out. >> we want to bring out changes that will stop this type of tragedy from happening to any community ever again. because this can happen in any community, your community. it has already happened in tucson, littleton, aurora and blacksburg. it has already happened in theaters, places of worship, malls and offices. >> here is where i stand on guns, i am in favor of a ban on high-capacity magazines and military-style w
. >>> and this crime fighter says the nra has held congress hostage for years. plus, a former congressman and nra point person who says this. >> there is nothing more critical to our nation's well-being than our children's safety. >> why he thinks the way to stop school shootings is to put an armed gun outside the room. >> i wouldn't know what to do with an assault rifle, wouldn't know why i would want one. this "piers morgan tonight". >>> vice...
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sorry. >>> swipe at the nra. malloy added this. >> let me be clear, freedom is not a handgun on the hip of every teacher and security should not mean a guard posted outside of every classroom. >> finally, speaking of those state of the state addresses, as we noted yesterday, they are becoming a platform, if you will, for a dozen current governors who could be potentially testing the waters for perhaps some day auditioning to do a state of the union address. we will be watching closely to see, for instance, what colorado's democratic governor john hickenlooper says about guns. scott walker, new mexico's susanna martinez. sam brownback. massachusetts deval patrick. south carolina's nikki haley. they will set the agendas for the coming year and perhaps have a little something to say about the national picture. for the end of the month, we will have heard from mike penns, rick perry as well. if you didn't think andrew cuomo was eyeing a 2016 bid after his speech yesterday, you probably do now. cuomoing who spent his
sorry. >>> swipe at the nra. malloy added this. >> let me be clear, freedom is not a handgun on the hip of every teacher and security should not mean a guard posted outside of every classroom. >> finally, speaking of those state of the state addresses, as we noted yesterday, they are becoming a platform, if you will, for a dozen current governors who could be potentially testing the waters for perhaps some day auditioning to do a state of the union address. we will be...
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the nra has refused to compromise. the vice president of the united states has conducted a wide ranging search for solutions. today president obama renewed his call for common sense gun measures. >> are there some sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in newtown can't walk into a school and gun down a bunch of children in a shockingly rapid fashion? and surely we can do something about that. >> the president mentioned the need for stronger background checks. he wants to regulate high capacity clips. he is calling for a meaningful assault weapons ban. vice president joe biden, he met with him today, also with the house democrats to get their input. but other congressional members say they don't believe any gun control bill will pass. really? senators kelly ayotte, also chuck grassley and angus king all say they're just willing to listen. and representative phil gingrey of georgia agrees. now, these are the people who get to vote on any kind of gun measure. but they're just waitin
the nra has refused to compromise. the vice president of the united states has conducted a wide ranging search for solutions. today president obama renewed his call for common sense gun measures. >> are there some sensible steps that we can take to make sure that somebody like the individual in newtown can't walk into a school and gun down a bunch of children in a shockingly rapid fashion? and surely we can do something about that. >> the president mentioned the need for stronger...
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. >> the nra met its worst nightmare today and his name is joe biden. >> the nra is a friend of freedom. >> i want to thank the national rifle association. >> they do a terrific job. >> we have the craziest people. >> too much weaponry in all the wrong hands. >> but there are also thing that is we know. >> he has a lot of friends on the hill. >> the vice president's task force powwow. >> there is no room. >> not to give an inch of ground. >> there is no room for compromise. >> we have another school shooting in taft, california at the same moment the nra is at the white house. >> they want change it is simple. >> more guns are not the answer. >> no one hunts with an assault rifle. >> the newtown tragedy, tucson and the movie theater massacres. >> is part of what sets america apart from the rest of the world. >> he called for armed guards in schools. >> call me crazy, you sir, are [ bleep ] in the head. >> as vice president joe biden was conducting a meeting at the white house today, a 16-year-old student was shot today when a student walked into the school and started firing. the shoote
. >> the nra met its worst nightmare today and his name is joe biden. >> the nra is a friend of freedom. >> i want to thank the national rifle association. >> they do a terrific job. >> we have the craziest people. >> too much weaponry in all the wrong hands. >> but there are also thing that is we know. >> he has a lot of friends on the hill. >> the vice president's task force powwow. >> there is no room. >> not to give an inch...
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this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of what that executive direction might look like. vice president biden talking about some of the ideas that have been bantied back and forth in these meetings. here's what he had to say today. take a listen. >> there's an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me, but coming from the groups we have met with. and i'm going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership, the type of weapons can be owned. and one is there is a surprising, so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal backgr
this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of...
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as i mentioned, you know, congress is controlled by the nra. the nra is all about selling guns. federal gun policy is about unrestricted access to guns. tie law enforcement's hands. have more mass shootings, more high profile mass shootings. more fear. more gun sales. more profits. >> but specifically, this gun appreciation day that will take place two days before the inauguration. >> it's all about selling more guns. and intimidating members of congress and the president to not do anything. mitch mcconnell laid it out nice and clearly. the fact that 3,000 americans die every day, 3,000 every month and 600 since newtown, and he's saying that's not an emergency? 87 dead americans every day and the fiscal cliff or debt ceiling is more important than 87 families burying their children and family members every day? that is immoral. and the nra is immoral. and let's face it. the gun industry controls congress and until the people take back their congress, it's going to be more massacres, more gun sales, more money back to the nra supporters in congress. >> let's get in you on this, m
as i mentioned, you know, congress is controlled by the nra. the nra is all about selling guns. federal gun policy is about unrestricted access to guns. tie law enforcement's hands. have more mass shootings, more high profile mass shootings. more fear. more gun sales. more profits. >> but specifically, this gun appreciation day that will take place two days before the inauguration. >> it's all about selling more guns. and intimidating members of congress and the president to not do...
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the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buy-back program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoon h cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to voluntarily? that is an exercise in shark jump
the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buy-back program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not...
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the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let's put the whole program out there if we can. >> do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don't know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular -- let me go to gene robinson. >> i'm not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean, that's a problem. you know, you can look at it from the other side. i understand the point about a comprehensive bill, but you might actually be able to get bills with this piece or that piece out of committee and maybe that would be easier than -- >> who is going to ramrod it for you, paul? the pro-gun safety or gun control people, who is going to ramrod it in the house or -- you got to get particular here with me. i want to know who is going to stand up, john dingell won't be there, a lot of guys in the congress are not anti-gun in any way. bobby casey is not going to be there. i don't think joe manchin is going to be t
the nra and their folks are going to fight everything tooth and nail. let's put the whole program out there if we can. >> do you think we could get something out of a more liberal judiciary committee? i just don't know which republican dominated committee in the house is going to do this. i mean, i hate to be particular -- let me go to gene robinson. >> i'm not sure which committee is going to pass this out of the house either. i mean, that's a problem. you know, you can look at it...
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the nra does have a lot of supporters. keane made the point when the president gets on the bully pull pits, he can be effective. people took it right here, right now, here is what i see. the white house said we are going to go out and really pitch this, so we will -- we will fee they do right now, you see the same schisms of what you have there in terms of why an assault weapons ban according to, certainly the nra, won't work. >> let me just ask you, because the president pretty busy also doing cabinet building. the latest nominee is jack lew and i am wondering how is that one really being received? >> well, depends on -- i think we have to take sort of all -- the 50,000-foot view from these -- for these cabinet nominees that the president has. jack lew has been around a lot. he has a very long resume, particularly on the fiscal side of public service. and i don't think he is going to have much of a fight. i think when it gets to a vote, jack lew becomes the next treasury secretary. ly get a rough going over by republicans
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it's not the power of the nra, matt. what it is is the strength of belief among millions of americans in their right under the constitution to privately own firearms. >> no one anywhere is talking about doing away with the second amendment, and no one anywhere is advocating stripping away gun ownership. what began this debate nearly one month ago next week was a massacre in a small town elementary school and a national resolution to keep america's children safer, but at some point that desire to better protect has been undermined by an extreme wythe right wing that seems more concerned with better protecting their firearms. ted nugent said yesterday, "there will come a time when the gun owners of america will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus, case closed." somehow, according to this twisted logic, questioning the necessity of bushmaster rifles and high capacity magazines has become a violation of basic civil rights on par with the racist era of jim crow, and anyone who suggests that it
it's not the power of the nra, matt. what it is is the strength of belief among millions of americans in their right under the constitution to privately own firearms. >> no one anywhere is talking about doing away with the second amendment, and no one anywhere is advocating stripping away gun ownership. what began this debate nearly one month ago next week was a massacre in a small town elementary school and a national resolution to keep america's children safer, but at some point that...
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the nra wants to protect the rights of hunters to hunt, okay. but when they say, we can't limit the size of an ammunition clip to some sensible number, that we can't check to make sure that an escaped murderer can't go to a gun show and buy a gun or a homicidal maniac can't go to a gun show and buy a gun, that's not sensible anymore, and most americans i think reject that and if they speak out their legislators will reject this. >> roger simon, thank you very much. we really appreciate you joining me. >> thank you. >>> debate is under way on the house floor for aid for victims of superstorm sandy but the house is at odds over how to pay for the bill. lawmakers from states impacted took to the floor earlier to make impassioned pleas. >> my constituents, the constituents of the northeast, they're not just whining. they're not just uncomfortable. they are devastated! >> there's simply no reason for the delay unless you believe that when disaster strikes we are all on our own. >> the time for recriminations is over. let's stand together as americans
the nra wants to protect the rights of hunters to hunt, okay. but when they say, we can't limit the size of an ammunition clip to some sensible number, that we can't check to make sure that an escaped murderer can't go to a gun show and buy a gun or a homicidal maniac can't go to a gun show and buy a gun, that's not sensible anymore, and most americans i think reject that and if they speak out their legislators will reject this. >> roger simon, thank you very much. we really appreciate...
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you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they propose happen to increase gun sales. all of their solutions are about finding ways to get more guns into the hands of-mile-an-hour people and this new little industry that's popping up which is training people to be a first responder in the classroom or a nurse first responder. all of that is an industry and the nra benefits. >> if you're a nurse, you can shoot and then you can treat. >> indeed. you have two hands. >> of course. david corn, joy r50ed, thank you both so much. >>> coming up, will the man with the illegible signature get tough on wall street? stay with us. >> jack assures me he is going to
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nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do not have to be owned by the average person, and that we come up with a mental health care plan. >> as we talk about patricia what needs to be done on a federal level nationally. what has been done in your community of arizona in the last two years that makes you feel that not only that community has done something to move forward but that can be used as an example for elsewhere? >> well, unfortunately i don't think much has been done at all. our state legislator during the -- right after the shootings decided that it was appropriate to name a state gun. that seemed like a slap in the face. we have a buy ba
nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do...